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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by tikitu</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6750</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, yeah, I&#039;m excited about it!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, yeah, I&#8217;m excited about it!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6749</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations!! That&#039;s really excellent news!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations!! That&#8217;s really excellent news!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by tikitu</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6748</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(I&#039;ve added &lt;em&gt;The Craft of Prolog&lt;/em&gt; to my wishlist. I can well imagine it&#039;s darn difficult, and enlightening.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I&#8217;ve added <em>The Craft of Prolog</em> to my wishlist. I can well imagine it&#8217;s darn difficult, and enlightening.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by tikitu</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6747</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He&#039;s an incredibly smart guy, and very knowledgeable. Unfortunately he doesn&#039;t have much patience for less smart and knowledgeable people (i.e., most of us), which can be pretty intimidating when you&#039;re a clueless student. I wish I could resit his courses now, I&#039;d get an &lt;em&gt;enormous&lt;/em&gt; amount more out of them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;C#: the cool thing is that it&#039;s slowly incorporating more and more functional techniques and technology. LINQ is Haskell list comprehension, and to get that working type-checked you need functions as first-class objects, &amp;c. &amp;c. Nice to see that kind of idea finally making its way into a commercial language.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s an incredibly smart guy, and very knowledgeable. Unfortunately he doesn&#8217;t have much patience for less smart and knowledgeable people (i.e., most of us), which can be pretty intimidating when you&#8217;re a clueless student. I wish I could resit his courses now, I&#8217;d get an <em>enormous</em> amount more out of them.</p>

<p>C#: the cool thing is that it&#8217;s slowly incorporating more and more functional techniques and technology. LINQ is Haskell list comprehension, and to get that working type-checked you need functions as first-class objects, &amp;c. &amp;c. Nice to see that kind of idea finally making its way into a commercial language.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by Ryszard Szopa</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6746</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryszard Szopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;...nearly every code &lt;em&gt;fragment&lt;/em&gt; gave you the “aha!” feeling...&quot; I meant, of course.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;nearly every code <em>fragment</em> gave you the “aha!” feeling&#8230;&#8221; I meant, of course.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by Ryszard Szopa</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6745</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryszard Szopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You were taught by O&#039;Keefe?! &lt;em&gt;Ohmygawd&lt;/em&gt;...! (&lt;em&gt;Squeaking sound&lt;/em&gt;) I mean, lucky you. Right, you&#039;re both from NZ. I&#039;ve read parts of his &lt;em&gt;Craft of Prolog&lt;/em&gt; and it is one of the most illuminating programming (or at least, Prolog programming) books I&#039;ve ever read. It was darn difficult, of course, but nearly every code gave you the &quot;aha!&quot; feeling when you finally got it. And Bratko is... Well, kinda nice. It is nice that it tries to teach Prolog and AI at the same time. But I don&#039;t consider its code to be really elegant.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the job market... Yeah, not being from the EU may complicate your life a little bit. Though, if it makes you feel better, I know at least one person from the US who was able to successfully obtain a Dutch work permit. And for some reasons his case was a bit more difficult than yours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for C#, I&#039;ve read some articles about LINQ and I was very positively surprised. Though I will stay with my Python for now, thank-you-very-much ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were taught by O&#8217;Keefe?! <em>Ohmygawd</em>&#8230;! (<em>Squeaking sound</em>) I mean, lucky you. Right, you&#8217;re both from NZ. I&#8217;ve read parts of his <em>Craft of Prolog</em> and it is one of the most illuminating programming (or at least, Prolog programming) books I&#8217;ve ever read. It was darn difficult, of course, but nearly every code gave you the &#8220;aha!&#8221; feeling when you finally got it. And Bratko is&#8230; Well, kinda nice. It is nice that it tries to teach Prolog and AI at the same time. But I don&#8217;t consider its code to be really elegant.</p>

<p>As for the job market&#8230; Yeah, not being from the EU may complicate your life a little bit. Though, if it makes you feel better, I know at least one person from the US who was able to successfully obtain a Dutch work permit. And for some reasons his case was a bit more difficult than yours.</p>

<p>As for C#, I&#8217;ve read some articles about LINQ and I was very positively surprised. Though I will stay with my Python for now, thank-you-very-much ;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by Robert Anton Reese</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6744</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Anton Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations Mr D. You&#039;ll be pleased to continuing your path up the ivory tower.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Mr D. You&#8217;ll be pleased to continuing your path up the ivory tower.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by tikitu</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6743</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Richard O&#039;Keefe? Hah, he taught me way-back-when (functional, maybe? I don&#039;t remember). No, we&#039;re using &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.librarything.com/work/212647&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bratko&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The job market is made much trickier when you&#039;re not from the EU. Outside of university work I would have to draw an unrealistically large salary to convince the Dutch government to give me a work permit. (And, of course, I &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; thinking mainly of somewhat esoteric languages... Although I was looking into C# for a while, and was pleasantly surprised by what I found.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard O&#8217;Keefe? Hah, he taught me way-back-when (functional, maybe? I don&#8217;t remember). No, we&#8217;re using <a href="http://www.librarything.com/work/212647" rel="nofollow">Bratko</a>.</p>

<p>The job market is made much trickier when you&#8217;re not from the EU. Outside of university work I would have to draw an unrealistically large salary to convince the Dutch government to give me a work permit. (And, of course, I <em>was</em> thinking mainly of somewhat esoteric languages&#8230; Although I was looking into C# for a while, and was pleasantly surprised by what I found.)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Prologophile by Ryszard Szopa</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/06/11/prologophile/comment-page-1/#comment-6742</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryszard Szopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Congratulations! Sounds seriously cool. Do you plan hitting students in the back of the head with a copy of O&#039;Keeffe&#039;s &lt;em&gt;The Craft of Prolog&lt;/em&gt; to facilitate illumination?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the job market, it is in reality a lot less depressed than the impression you would get from reading the news... Unless you are thinking exclusively of Haskell, Lisp or Prolog programming, but then you shouldn&#039;t be very surprised :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations! Sounds seriously cool. Do you plan hitting students in the back of the head with a copy of O&#8217;Keeffe&#8217;s <em>The Craft of Prolog</em> to facilitate illumination?</p>

<p>As for the job market, it is in reality a lot less depressed than the impression you would get from reading the news&#8230; Unless you are thinking exclusively of Haskell, Lisp or Prolog programming, but then you shouldn&#8217;t be very surprised :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on A weekend in Stockholm by tikitu</title>
		<link>http://www.logophile.org/blog/2009/05/16/a-weekend-in-stockholm/comment-page-1/#comment-6706</link>
		<dc:creator>tikitu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The place we went to had nice cups for quaffing too, but disappointingly enough they were moulded not turned -- lifeless lunks, although I suppose they stack very efficiently.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The place we went to had nice cups for quaffing too, but disappointingly enough they were moulded not turned &#8212; lifeless lunks, although I suppose they stack very efficiently.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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